>> i believe that real and positive immigration reform is possible. if we are guided by the well-being of american citizens, then i believe republicans and democrats can work together to achieve an outcome that has eluded our country for decades. >> so what are we to believe on this morning after? what the president told the erikerik anchors at lunch, which is a huge shift for him, the more cautious words, the vice president on some morning shows this morning saying border security first. we'll talk about that later. where are we? >> i tend to go with what the vice president said as the baseline for where we are. you have to remember, and i think everyone here does, that donald trump is very critical of mitt romney in 2012 when mitt romney talked about self-deportation. he described it as a mean-spirited way of going about immigration reform. if you hear, you know, talk of what happened at the anchors meeting -- you come away with the presentation that he doesn't