i think the tone is one piece of this and van talked about that. there's folks who say he's mean old donald trump but there are many more of us who say, no, you have to look at the record. look at what he did yesterday. this is dangerous. this is troubling. this is literally causing people to live in fear. we have to acknowledge that. it's not about him sounding presidential. it's about him being presidential and pushing forth policy that protects people on our soil and beyond. that is a reality. >> let me just make a -- it's -- it might be a minor point. it might be a major point. being presidential, you could be presidential and have terrible policies. nixon behaved, before he got in trouble the first term, you know, he fulfilled the basic functions of being a president. he just had tearbling policies. donald trump has terrible policies and he's behaved in a