we're up to at least five people connected to the campaign who did it. are you concerned with the fact that this happened or there seems to be a desire to keep it quiet that this happened? >> i think everybody who has had contact with the russians need to get in a practice of oversharing. if you were to look at the obama administration or the george w. bush administration, how many people in those times had contact with russians? yes, the russians are our adversary, but we are working with them in certain areas. so there's always going to be contact between government officials and russia. i think the problem is we're making this a partisan activity, and we should be focused on how do we prevent -- how do we fully understand what the russians were trying to do to manipulate our elections, how do we respond to those types of things in the future? how do we work with our allies to make sure this kind of stuff