working for all parties involved. anthem says without significant changes to the act or obama care as we've been describing it, is going to extract itself from a number of states where it's offering coverage currently, so what do you say to those insurers who are demanding changes or else? >> well, i think the appropriate way to deal with this issue is bring anthem, the insurers together, sit down with republicans and democrats. the republicans complain so bitterly that you know, that affordable care act was pushed through so fast, yet now, they're doing the aim saim things themselves. the it's haywire. something thrown together at the last minute. see if there's a way to get the insurers and governors who have experience and implementation. over the last year and a half, our medicaid has been flat. on a per person basis. the first time ever.