all these stories that are sort of peeling out, the political optics of this hasn't been very good for sort of, you know, being able to trust whatever comes out of the committee. and i think that paul -- you know, nunes in that interview, it appears that he said that paul ryan -- essentially said that the republicans have his back. but i don't know how long that goes on, if this continues to be so damaging for the president, for the committee, and for the work that they need to do to uncover what's going on. >> abby phillip, even if nunes stays as the chair of the committee, even if they resume these committees, which they likely will, and hear from all of these individuals they've called in, at what point do they lose complete credibility in their findings among the american people after all of this, what truly has become a circus? >> well, it just really depends