responsibility about taxation there, too, in terms of how it goes to municipalities. you're okay giving him this leeway? >> in the case of sanctuary cities, yes, i am. >> where does it end? how about when he doesn't like the next set of monies that you put to a municipality and he decides to pull the strings because he doesn't like something that's going on there? >> you're into the hypothetical there. >> we're seeing it play out in real-time, congressman. >> we are. >> this is seen as an overreach by the judge. that's why they shut down the order. but you're okay with that. >> and we'll see when this is appealed how it plays out, much like the overreach of a judge claiming can muslim input on the border where he never used the word muslim in the order. i believe it is an overreach. we can always agree to disagree and ultimately this will go up to probably the supreme court and we'll see how that comes down. >> evidence of intent doesn't have to necessarily be in the