a lot of power and a lot of access. so that works, i guess, in the business world where no one -- his words are not under constant scrutiny, he's his own boss. when you're president of the united states, you work for the people. i think we've seen that the smell test doesn't hold up. donald trump is having a realtime adjusting to the reality that the rest of us have lived in for our entire lives and it's not serving him well. frankly, i don't think he cares. he doesn't care. >> jeffrey, counter. >> chris, i don't understand where were these stories when president obama said he had an uncle that liberated one of the death camps where unless he was a russian simply didn't happen. >> we are talking about donald trump. we're talking about donald trump. >> we're talking about presidents and dealing with history. >> wait. this isn't normal, jeffrey. this is not normal. >> hold on. >> jeffrey, how does it serve --