persuade folks from nos to yeses. do you know who he is meeting with? >> he's been meeting with moderate members, some who were outright nos and weren't changed in meeting with him. but the white house has been meeting and the health and human services secretary, tom price, he's been working to try and answer policy questions and concerns as well. the white house recognizes here that this is a very, very key moment. we've said it's a do or die moment over the last couple of months. but when you look forward to the agenda, what they actually want to accomplish, the white house grasps and the house leadership does as well, this is really their opportunity. there's no going back to the drawing board. when mike pence was a member of congress, he was a very conservative member of congress who wasn't striking a lot of back room deals and he hasn't