as its called. aetna pulled out of virginia siting big obamacare losses, the only remaining carry said it was considering its involvement in the marketplace so choices are narrowing for consumers. isn't that a reality? >> it's a reality but it's a reality that the republicans have helped make a reality. you heard the president. remember, when the president got finished with his parade on inauguration day, the first thing he did, the very first thing was rushed to the oval office and sign documents basically undermining the affordable care act. he went on to say that he wanted to see the affordable care act go down by its own weight. and so they have done a number of things trying to make sure that certain parts were not properly funded, trying to make sure that provisions were not adhered to, sending mixed messages. so all of that goes against certainty. the insurers that i've talked to