information. unprecedented access to interviews. that to date we have not been denied. sometimes we've had some very crucial negotiations to get to folks that we felt we needed to talk to. but we're confident that everything we've done up to this point has been items that were needed in an investigation and that the level of cooperation existed. and that's why meeting with the deputy a.g. today was important. because that puts -- that keeps our pathway open. >> i would simply echo that we both have sometimes been concerned around the pace of the investigation, but a lot of that is we are in uncharted territory with a lot of these intelligence communities. so it is at times it's not been because the chairman and i have had a disagreement. it's been because they're an area -- there's no playbook for how they share this kind of information with not only a