problem? i'll preface it by reading something our colleagues wrote in "the new york times" about the trump administration contradictions surrounding james comey. the firing there. he says, this is in part, truth be told, the incessant lying by this president and the elaborate apparatus in the white house to meet those lies means nothing they say it to be believed anyway. but this is of a different nature. this says to america, i'm going to tell you a lie that is so outrageous, that you will want to believe that some part of it is true to preserve your faith in truth, democracy and mankind. what do you think of that? >> striking, isn't it. listen, don, we've had examples of presidents lying to the public on a consistent basis now for at least a generation. ly lyndon johnson lied about the vietnam war. he didn't have a credibility gap, he had a canyon.