important point there. number one, he he said there is no evidence that he has seen. but that doesn't mean there isn't. that means there could be or couldn't be. i don't know. let's let that investigation go out. go back to when things in was being leaked. i think that is something more serious that we all need to be concerned as americans. if highly classified information is being gathered by these intelligence services, you know, if they tapped into, i don't want to say tapped -- if they surveilled general flynn's telephone conversations, they could do that to you, me, any american out here. >> if they did that, they weren't targeting general flynn. they were targeting the russian ambassador to the united states and he was having a conversation and his conversation was picked up, not because general flynn was targeted because the russian ambassador to the united states was targeted. >> and that's right. and look at how much power in that drag net ability of the federal government to pick up this information and then slice