convinced. clearly, kelly jane, not everybody is convinced. will they ever be? what is it going to take to figure this out? >> first not only is not everybody convinced but his statement is not accurate. now it's true that james clapper did say that he hasn't seen any evidence of collusion. that doesn't mean there isn't any. he was very careful in his choice of words to say that. he said i have not seen evidence. and he actually has come out since trump has been -- the president has been saying things like that to clarify. and yeah, there hasn't been any evidence presented yet but we haven't seen the full results of this investigation and that is why it's so important to appoint an fbi director who is going to be regarded by everybody as fair and will do a thorough job investigating this so that when the results come out, we could hopefully put this behind us either way. >> i want to read something that