that they are, that's different than to say i was on a senate committee, which you can imagine there is an exception what i would like to know and it would be good to figure out is if other senators or congressmen or women who became members of the trump administration, what they disclosed. if they disclosed meetings that they had and sessions did not, it undermines sessions argument that everyone was doing this, nobody was saying anything. i think this is one of those other things that this data point with other data points matter. once again, sessions becomes a focus in terms of this investigation and in terms of his influence during the campaign. >> and let's just be clear, david, because sessions did make this same claim, right, in the confirmation hearings for his position as attorney general. he excluded this information and here's how he answered the