anyway. if i go forward and testify the only thing the white house can do then is go to a court and block it. >> is this a matter of degrees they can say we're asserting executive privilege over these specific conversations or this topic alone? >> exactly. that's how it would have to be couched by the white house. they would have to say okay you can talk about what we had for dinner when we metaphor dinner but you can't talk about specific discussions about the investigation. >> do you believe that the president will assert executive privilege? >> no. i think it would be crazy to do it they would lose. executive privilege, whenever a court looks at it, when ever presidents have tried it. many have tried. clinton he lost. nixon lost. obama tried it in fast and furious investigation. courts don't like to keep evidence of potential misconduct away from congress or the public. >> let's say the president doesn't assert executive privilege and koem gentlemen was the on thursday, these memos,