secret oath not to repeal information that the government collected, this is stolen information. i want to hear from who published this. did you know you were taking stolen information and what is your responsibility to go to the u.s. government and say, i'm accepting stolen information. no one will take responsibility. i think there is questions for the news outlet that took this and didn't question anybody. >> and the question is outing your source, honestly. bringing this, i understand your question, but there's another. i do understand your question, but there's another one here which is, when you go to the nsa to authenticate this and are you assuming that the nsa isn't then going to check who leaked the information to you? and did you -- did you inadvertently out your source? >> oh, heck yes. i will guess the person who received this is probably in the same area from the individual who e-mailed it. there is onlisome people who downloaded that information on a printer. whoever published this gave a clue to the feds. but didn't pick up the phone and