about. >> well, you have all of these investigations and they are searching for the facts. you have the president of the united states and you've alluded to how he's responding. he's calling this a witch hunt, phony reporting. >> let's stop on witch hunt for a minute because this statement is quite extraordinary, because he ought to know if he's read american history, though he sometimes talks about how he doesn't read much, he ought to know that when we had real witch hunts in this country in the 1950s under joe mccarthy and others, these were terrible scorched earth events that ruined the lives of people who were hauled before congressional committees and other places simply because they belong to certain organizations or did not belong to certain organizations. total apples and oranges. one of the darkest moments in our history and the president of the united states, any president, ought to know the difference between what we're looking at here.