lot of incoming these days there air lot of southbound professionals in there including sean spicer and they know exactly what it means had they refuse to answer a question. and the continued intentional punting of any sort of clear cut answer on these questions, they know it fuels the fire, they know it keeps the questions coming and they continue do it anyway. >> but they also know that only one person can actually answer that question. and it's the president of the united states. they are southbound professionals, which is why they don't want to go out on a limb and answer i question that they don't necessarily know the answer to. it was the president's tweet that put that word tapes in quotes out there and so, yes, i agree they are southbound professionals, which i is why i think they're trying to make sure that the boss owns this from beginning to end. >> and they don't want to be undermined in the end of it. >> exactly. >> and we saw it with his private attorney, you know, over the last couple days where he went out to try to explain something, try toy kplien away a treat tweet from president trump from president trump and failed in doing so. they're all professionals,