kate, it's more money for senate leaders to work with to get the moderates on board who are concerned about cuts. along with him saying that, they want to do that this week. there are a lot of important components here. in terms of a concrete path forward, it's not there yet. the biggest thing to pay attention to is this is a dispute that is big. you have conserve tiffs that believe it will play a specific role in society and the marketplace drawing that role. you have moderates to believe government and government programs will have an influence. how they bridge the divide will determine if they do. >> we'll see. it's just as easy as that. thank you, phil, great to see you. joining me now to discuss, democratic senator, ed marky of massachusetts. thank you for coming on, i appreciate it. >> good morning, kate. >> i want to get to health care in a second. because of the breaking news at