senator. let's start with a couple of points. first of all, the deficit issue. i know you heard phil mattingly say senator mcconnell has money to play around with here to try to win people over. but the cbo says that the bill will cut the deficit by more than $320 billion. obviously, who knows, that's like throwing something against a wall, whether it's actually true or not. but if it is, is it a good thing? >> of course you can cut the deficit if you cut coverage. if you destroy the safety net that is medicaid, of course you can save money. and i think it's also pretty striking because the republicans are eyeing a multitrillion dollar tax cut bill when health care is wrapped up. look, i can tell you that this legislation is pretty much just the same as the house. you have 22 million uninshired, $770 billion plus in medicaid cuts. hundreds of billions in tax breaks. these folks are so eager to give out tax breaks, they are