an international effort at north korea. you're right. there are a lot of bad options and diplomacy is probably the best of a lot of bad options. i think we have to be realistic. the target would be a freeze on icbms on missile technology. i think nuclear is probably something that is not obtainable in the short run. but i think once again we need new actors, new players. the european union, the vatican. try to find some new levers in diplomacy that we have not tried. >> gordon, you were shaking your head a little there. >> we don't want a freeze because we don't want to accept the program as a given. that's been a basis of american policy from the very beginning. so i think what we need to do is really start to look at coercive diplomacy on the chart of the chinese. they launched it out of a chinese transporter launcher.