understandable. the question that is before us is how do you protect -- let me just give you an example. in 1976, jimmy carter won ohio by a little under 12,000 votes. that was less than one vote per precinct in ohio. if you had just flipped 6,000 votes, ford would have remained president and carter would have gone back to georgia. that's how important one vote in one precinct is. and therefore this commission is looking at how do we protect the people's right to have their vote counted when it is legitimately and legally cast. and, how do we in fact make sure that there are protections against outside threats and manipulations. chris, let me say -- >> doesn't seem to be conceived in a way to succeed in that objective because you're asking for information arguably you'd