affiliated, even if we didn't know their distinct affiliation at that time. the second piece of this statement i find curious and it came from kellyanne conway as well. nothing came of this meeting. it wasn't a big deal. what if they had given you information? what would you have done with if? the next question. said, uh-oh. this came from a kremlin-backed source. we can't do anything with this or taken that information and done something with it? >> a great point. and a different way to look at it also is, the question about how politics works. how campaigns work. >> right. >> manu, jason miller, who was the communications director for the trump campaign now a cnn contributor, here's what he said about this. >> the fact that someone's coming forward with information about an opposing campaign would be insane to not at least go and send someone to sit down with them to figure out what they were talking about. >> okay. so that is true. but i've heard from republican after republican today on