there is no question russia interfered in the election in many different ways. >> they also said it didn't impact one single vote. >> which is different. >> no. >> no one is suggesting that it changed the election outcome. >> no, chris, who was the president of the united states when this was taking place? >> this is a distraction. >> i'm answering your question. who was the president of the united states? >> yes, they interfered, no they didn't interfere. >> look, based on the information we've seen of the russia's supposedly attempted. i haven't seen the data. you haven't either. >> i'm a lawyer and i didn't even understand it. >> did they do it or not do it? >> the russians hacked it or not. i have no idea if they interfered. >> you don't believe the intelligence community. >> the intelligence community has given inconsistency reports over 17 intelligence agencies. said it all happened then it was reported that it was four. i'm not looking at intelligence reports that anywhere different than what you would see in the