doing some things that president trump really likes, like committing to spending 2% of their gdp on defense, being critical of germany on trade just like president trump has been. what do you think makes this trip a win for president trump? >> well, i think it's actually a mistake to look at it -- if trump looks at it as a win, that's a short-term thing, right? so that means that you come back and there's positive press and that it's, you know, people say that it was a win. i think a win is actually a long-term win, which is to establish a relationship, to build that relationship for the long term of cooperation. i think that is the key. i think it could go either way. right now they're frenemies. you can argument donald trump is nationalist and macron is this cosmopolitan internationalist, that's one way of looking at it. if that's the dichotomy, that