attorney and she asked me if he could file it without signing it to certify that it's true. i pointed out to her that millions of financial disclosure reports have been filed in the past four decades and every one of them has been certified as true, and i think we could ask that of our president. >> his lawyer asked you if he didn't have to sign it to certify it as true? under what basis? why did she want that? >> she said the filing is voluntary and he doesn't have to file it if he doesn't want to. i said, that's fine, file it and release it unsigned, but if you want to certify it, which they wanted done, it's going to have to follow the normal rules. >> did he sign it? >> yes, he did sign it. but then you also have the tax forms that are not released. they aren't required to be released, and that's something i would like to see changed. it's like going out and buying anything. people need to be able to evaluate what kind of conflicts of interest their presidential candidate has, and this story people knew what they were