it varies state-by-state, although none of them are okay with turning over social security or partial social security numbers. cobach claims that 30 states plus d.c. have refused to turn over any data, even public information, but jake, here's the thing. at this point the commission isn't accepting any data because it's all tied up in court. >> thank you. we have a lot to talk about today with the panel. kevin madden, the whole reason this commission exists is based on this thing that president trump has said is demonstrably false. 3.5 million people voted illegally. it's in the dozens, not the millions. do you think anything good and worthwhile can come out of this commission? >> i have a hard time believing that because they haven't consistently communicated to the public how and what they would do with it. that's why you see bipartisan