our allies and then tillerson and matson have to clean it up. to what extent is trump operating by himself going to give away the store. that's the concern here. >> i think people listening to this those people who like president trump say what's the big deal, he should talk to president putin. others who don't like president trump would have concern. have you heard about this happening before where there's not someone with the u.s. president or there was no talking points. >> i don't know if there were talking points or not. i think what is unusual is not to have one interpret tor from the u.s. side. it may have been it was unplanned and he had the japanese speaking interpret tor, and he thought had had to go and do some business. it was unwise if there were any difference in interpretations,