surrogate, he couldn't lead that investigation. african agrees that was a correct decision, and trump's obsession with loyalty, i mean as you pointed out, it was a big theme of his interactions with jim comey. this is why he's mad at -- this is why he's mad at sessions. mr. scaramucci, the new communications director said you know, cabinet members have to have the president's back. no, not the attorney general. the attorney general's job is to be independent. the president doesn't get that. >> that's not how the it went down though. there's an important factual issue there which is it's not that jeff sessions realized this is taking place and i need to recuse myself because i was a surrogate. he gave a botched answer during his confirmation hearing and when that was confronted with that, this he recused himself and he didn't give the president a heads up in the process. in the president's mind, i'm not just justifying it but saying i don't think it was because jeff sessions initially realized there was some issue at play.