>> ryan nobles, thanks very much. i want to bring back in the panel. for a lot of people the details get in the weeds and mind-boggling, your head starts to swim. do you have a sense for what's going to happen? >> that so-called skinny plan to repeal and replace obamacare is probably the only that has a snowball's chance in you-know-where to actually pass. that's why the democrats are doing this tactic, because we do only have concepts, it's really basic, to get richard md of thee and get rid of the medical device tax. >> what's the benefit of the tactic? >> to force republicans to actually -- >> come up with something. >> come up with something, but to actually put it in legislative language so they can have a real debate on it and not just surprise everybody at the end of the debate. >> you can't blame them for that. certainly they should see what they're voting on, unlike what we did with obamacare.