secretary of defense sort of following it up with i don't know if measured is the world. but coming at it from a different angle. >> you have a bad cop scheme going on. and to borrow the synchronization example, is the sinkiniynchronization around th national security team. he has willingness to their advantage. by having tillerson message that there is a way out of this but having mattis back up some of the president's threats, the message is meant to sort of break this log jam in north korea. everything the u.s. has tried to do over the past couple of decades hasn't stopped them from moving forward on nuclear development, nuclear weapons development. the last time we saw some sort of break in this was back in 2003 after george w. bush called