something that would take you and i, anybody on this panel, a half a second to do. and so i think that, you know, i actually saw an interesting conversation last night with anderson, with the -- a similar panel, and folks being challenged about the president saying, i don't know who david duke is, i don't know anything about that. well, it's not true because he was considering a run, donald trump, in 2000 for the reform party and was asked by matt lauer what he thought was wrong with the reform party and he listed david duke as one of the ills of the reform party because david duke was a bigot and no one wanted that associated with his party. so 15, 16 years later, he doesn't know who david duke is? that's a flatout lie. >> i feel like my job is to listen when that was happening yesterday and that was sort of the ugliest part of it all. we had a really, i thought, a substantive conversation. you chimed in and were excellent. it felt almost like a window into conversations being had in this country, emotional