buzzing about it. speaking out about what you're about to tell me, is bannon telling a writer for the weekly standard the presidency that i fought for with donald trump that we won is now over? is that what he was saying to you? >> basically, yeah, he told me that -- and take this with a grain of salt given the source, that this was not a firing. that it was in the works for a while, thinking about leaving two weeks ago delayed it because of the charlottesville uproar, something agreed to with both chief of staff john kelly discussed with the president and it was clear, bannon told me that he is leaving on friendly terms and going outside to wage war for trump. and not against trump. >> amicable terms, presidency is over, mutually agreed, war, which way do you see it? >> i am sort of interested in the take on what he means by that. it seemed to me when i read it