other -- >> yes. >> he came very comfortable with me. he enjoyed showing me how to smug gel the software out of the country. >> everything is separate -- >> so i put the disks in something like this. >> and he explained different methods on hiding and concealing the software, at which point i raised my hands up as if i had handcuffs on and he chuckled and said, no, no, you know, you won't have to worry about that. you won't be arrested. >> because we know that in our country that's illegal, have any companies reached out and contacted him and, you know --