that. that is the way advertisers wanted to you live. >> i know what will make you feel better. >> me, too, but i bet it's different than what you've got. >> the ideal situation is if you can sub vert whatever common stuff is said about families or parenting -- >> what's in this -- lead? >> oh, i got you kids new leg irons. her loudness and her unfilteredness were key to why we liked her. she was staying stuff about working-class people and saying stuff about men and women. so it was about marriage and raising kids and about how hard it is. >> oh, great. i'm going to look like a freak, that's all. >> what else is new? >> shut up. >> this is why some animals eat their young. >> tv in the '80s was a big decade for the evolution of comedy, and the evolution of drama. it just pushed everything forward. >> do you think perhaps this generation are paying more attention to the dialogue, to the relationships that they see on television than in years previous?