announce a winding down of this program or face a court challenge. there was an interesting development over the weekend, tennessee backed off the threat the state attorney general citing the human element to this issue and calling on congress to act. this is very controversial and so a lot of people are going to be watching very, very closely to see what the president ultimately does. >> controversial and hugely emotionally charged. athena, thank you so much. "outfront" now democratic strategist maria cardona, ben ferguson, host of "the ben ferguson show." great to see both of you. ben, athena laid out, encapsulating what democrats are saying, this move is cruel. even some republicans have been speaking out saying this is not the right move. they don't want to see the president go this way. are they right? >> i think they're wrong. i think congress has to actually do their job and actually have some clarity on this instead of kicking this problem down the road. republicans and democrats, alike, have been incredibly irresponsible in congress to not