administration when it comes to north korea. >> and is there a strategy when it comes to north korea, in your view? >> i would just note that this is eighth grade trash talk except most aide graders don't have access to nuclear weapons so this escalates the confrontation. >> not any eighth graders i know. >> right. to take a serious note, i think you may be seeing the consequence and fallout of the president actually having a conversation with both the leaders of japan and south korea. japan's shinzo abe stressed last week that, yes, maybe talk is fine but we need tougher sanctions and then you saw the president talk with the leader of south korea who is a bit more dovish and who is pressing for more dialogue. so maybe we're seeing the president meeting the two allies in the middle somewhere with tougher sanctions but still leaving the door open to possible negotiations but i would say that as david points