border between us and mexico he can say to his audience, oh, i never really talked about a physical wall. look, i talked about a wall having to be see-through, et cetera, et cetera. because he knows that a physical wall the way that he talked about during the campaign and what he has promised his base is not going to happen. it is not feasible. the majority of the american people don't want it. frankly, the majority of republicans on the hill don't want it either. >> yeah. who said that's not true? is that andre? go ahead. >> andre said that. and that's not true. the majority of americans do want borders. they all realize, look, when we go through security at the airport it's to protect everyone. >> there's a difference between borders and a border call. >> security is not a physical border wall. >> every time we come back into the country. >> yeah, but andre -- andre's doing a sleight of hand here. there's a difference between saying that americans want borders and that americans want security and saying that americans want to build a wall or a fence or some other