it was networked, it had an ethos. one comes from that. >> are you tough enough, do you have -- you know, do you have the ability to drag dead bodies across the room to show people in afghanistan that you can do business? >> you don't need dead bodies. you need to implement tools. we've had enough of death and destruction. no, seriously. my problem was the opposite. i had the reputation as finance minister of being so tough that people thought they would vote for me but they would afraid i would be so tough, i would break the system. what has pleasantly surprised them is flexibility. >> everybody knows you are spotless, even your worst enemies don't accuse you of corruption. but you preside over what is regularly regarded as one of the most corrupt countries in the world. how do you change that and how