>> ben, your response. >> look, i think there needs to be one e-mail account used if that's what the rules say. let's be clear. we don't know if this was nonsecure, secure e-mail. so to imply that it is unsecure is not true yet because we don't know the facts on the that. the second thing is the majority of the condolence was in response to people that e-mailed him to his private e-mail. and we're talking about seven e-mails, or 7.2 e-mails on average per month since he got sworn in at the white house. so this is nothing compared to what hillary clinton is doing. now, let me make it also clear. i think that if you need to have one e-mail address, it needs to be a government e-mail address, make it clear. these e-mails should be open to anyone in the government to w.h.o. wants to look at them to make sure there is nothing here that broke any rules. well also have no indication that any of these e-mails were classified in nature which is what tens of thousands of hillary clinton's were. these are two different circumstances. >> ben ferguson, david jacobson, thank you, gentlemen, for