that's a no-no. and he has not apologized. and also -- >> he's not going to apologize. >> did he talk about the mothers of the neo-nazis, the alt rights, the kkk, those guys, crazy people in charleston? >> he said there were some very fine people. >> oh, okay. their mothers weren't sobs. >> do you think he's speaking in harsher terms -- >> osk. of course. and also, in my opinion, this guy has given all these groups the wipg wink, the green light to come out of the darkness, come out and just show who you are. and that speech in alabama, alabama home of george wallace, sheriff bull connor, the bombing of the sixth street baptist church in birmingham, alabama, alabama, i mean, come on. >> there's history. >> there's history in alabama. >> you're saying you can't take