were interested in actually getting to the truth or insight or gaining insight into what's happening. but she's good at like blindly defending the president. and as you said, that's kind of her job. >> that's the point of why corker has a different patina in the first place is he is somebody who has defended the president and now he is not. >> working at the white house or whether you're bagging groceries at the corner market. if you go out on national television and trash your boss, you won't be working there the next day. so i think she's doing what she's supposed to do. >> nobody is saying she should be trashing him. just don't say these things that are completely bonkers. we have a lot more ahead tonight. including vice president pence's protest to the nfl game this weekend. and now the president is trying to use it to his advantage. my good friend andy cohen on the first lady, the wife to claims she's the first lady and what it all means, if anything.