two decades, the incredible letter of that woman that went viral on buzzfeed and got 27 million lady gaga's sung being sung at the academy award, keysha coming out. ashley judd coming out. we're lifting thving that shifts great to see. >> we're making strides on this issue. >> and we're blaming perpetrators instead of victims. >> i have to run, but if you can quickly, janice, do you think it's the tip of the iceberg? i know you don't want to speculate, but do you think so when it comes to this? >> sure, i do think it's the tip of the iceberg. i don't know how quickly or when anything will come out. but there are many people in hollywood who don't have great reputations. and people still in high positions of power. i think you see with roger ales,