then why have a policy that basically says we're going to increase premiums by 20%? what happened here is that the president betrayed the voters. he said that he was going to help. he made all these promises. and out of spite, okay, out of spite for the affordable care act he is victimizing people who have health insurance through the affordable care act. >> but he did say he was going to repeal and replace. this isn't a repeal or a replace. this is sort of a dismantling. >> he did say he was going to repeal and replace. and i say sure, okay. try doing that. you can't get it through the congress. so you're instead just destroying and destabilizing the health insurance markets. that's not what he promised to do. >> let steven respond. >> first of all, are you really saying that donald trump is the one who is breaking his promises? >> yes. >> name one promise of obamacare -- no, really. go back to the things that barack obama said seven years ago. every single promise was