it was a promise made months ago by the commander in chief during a condolence call. it was back in july. the check was dated october 18th. that was the same day the white house was asked about the check. coincidence? >> big coincidence. obviously on this one i don't fault president trump as much, because it does strike me as the type of thing that someone else was supposed to follow through on. the president does have a lot going on. and the same thing with the letters, frankly. there's a problem in terms of what's going on with the process there at the white house. because there is a process for this. this isn't the first president to do this. so i'd love to know where the break down has happened. >> listen, i give you that. i had the guy who put the lights if on my tree, and i saw him and i was like oh, my gosh, i never paid you. >> exactly, yeah. >> but if you have someone on a phone call and you're the president of the united states, wouldn't you think somebody around him said $25,000 -- >> you would think that. but you also can see his next phone call is something about