allegations. >> so, paul, it's important to point out that if people are waiting on monday or whenever this is unsealed, that they will see a charge of collusion, that they're going to be disappointed because collusion itself is not a crime. it's not a charge. what are the options there, just to temper expectations? >> yeah. that's a great observation, victor because, you know, even lawyers who are doing commentary on this stuff have fallen into the trap of calling it collusion because we all refer to it as a collusion investigation. federal law calls it really a conspiracy. twob a conspiracy to violate some kind of federal law. kind of the same thing as collusion, but they're using the wrong word. my own feeling here is that as the first indictment coming down, you're not going to see an indictment that says there's collusion. you might see an indictment for money laundering. you might see an indictment for lying to the fbi or federal investigators. because that would send a message to other people under
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