>> if i can jump in. it's the fact when this was breaking right around this time yesterday, i was thinking instantly this is school kids getting out. this is halloween. and so you found yourself in the middle of school kids who saw this, right, this is something young children can never unsee? >> right. >> what were you telling them to do? >> i was just moving. just moving them. said get around the corner as i was running around the corner. >> good for you. >> and i didn't know which way this guy was going. so i was kept going. and by this time the parents were moving really fast. and by that time they broken their trans and moved. so i kept on moving. then half ways down the block i started hearing the shots. but they were single shots. so i thought to myself, i thought, well, this is obviously not some repetitive repeater