we're not mentssaging on foreig policy, et cetera. we have a messaging problem and we had an obamacare face-plant in the senate. we've got to correct that and move forward. and we failed to do that last night. >> but ed gillespie did run on some of the issues, some of the cultural issues that have been most important and prominent to this president. like immigration, like confederate statues, like the nfl, you know, kneeling or standing for the anthem. he did run on that stuff. i think what we're trying to understand is do you think that helped or hurt in virginia for this race? >> some of those issues, i think, helped ed. and i mean, the president narrative is that he ran hard on those issues. i don't think that's accurate. ed ran a good state-level policy race. right? he had 20 rational policy planks at the state level, but that got dwarfed by all the nationalization of the issues, right? and so, the state message didn't