later, he was briefed on it. >> the thing you have to understand about chris steele, he is a guy who hates the media, the limelight, and doesn't reveal who his sources were. we have had stories about the do dossier, and of course when it came out four weeks later, we found it to be true. >> do you find him to be a credible figure? >> after 2014, which was kind of well received by u.s. intelligence and sent all the way out to john reed. what i understand from talking to his friends, the sources behind the ukraine reports were the same sources behind the dossier, in other words, their sources were right and kind of proven in other areas, his friends say. i've asked and they say he is professional. he is credible. >> so listen, he is a mysterious figure as i said, a lot of people would like to hear from