apartment, and jeremiah was there and saying, "i'm going to go to hawaii and maybe i'm going to go cut vines in the napa valley, do something." and i said, "you know, what you're really good at is cooking. why don't you just call alice? we know she's looking for someone to work with. just go over there." >> andrew: one of the things i think is really important to think about when talking about the '70s and '80s in this country is how very disconnected, uh, what was happening in american restaurants was. a lot of the newspapers around the country did not have food sections. people were by and large very unaware of who the chefs were. there was no internet. there were not even fax machines at the beginning of this story. so, a lot of what happened in individual cities and individual areas was very self contained. and then, in the bay area, up in berkeley, was this little restaurant called chez panisse that opened in 1971.